MKIIISupra
05-20-2008, 03:55 AM
Haven't posted much in awhile, between school and this car situation and moving its been hectic but here's what i've been up to the past week:
For those who have seen my engine/car in person and thought it was clean then....just wait till you see this damn engine bay THIS time :good:
Figured i'd start a new build thread since my car was totaled. My plans are to strip the car of any working/good order parts and putting them into a new chassis. More than likely the motor will be good, once its pulled i will have a better idea.
My budget is a mere 4,000US.......thanks a lot for nothing insurance :icon_evil:icon_evil. I handed them over 7K in receipts in just parts for the car and that's all im getting.
Background:
Well here was the car before:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_55_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_57_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_58_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_54_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_50_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_49_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_48_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_47_full.jpg
When it was running 100% it was quite a bit over 300WHP/WTQ
Mods inlcuded just about every supporting mod to a big turbo setup MINUS the big turbo from fuel to intake to exhaust with a freshly built engine and head. It was fun, it was fast.
Then tragedy Struck:
My roomate came running down the steps as i was making a sandwich and yelling there was smoke coming from my engine bay. I looked out not all that worried when i realized there wasn't just a little smoke but lots including large flames :aigo:. I couldn't get the hood to release and the fire dept. couldn't pry the hood open so they had to use the jaws of life :icon_mad:
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4226/picture007xm0.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3440/picture006ow9.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7166/picture004qb3.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1497/picture003pa1.jpg
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2002/picture002oy4.jpg
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9165/picture005yv1.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/204/picture001pk0.jpg
As you can see the interior is nearly perfect. All electronics should be in working order...of course they can't though since half the system is burned up.
It begins......
After a two day trip i got the car home from WVU on a trailer. Its currently at Gaboonviper's old boss' machine shop waiting to be parted.
Here are a few shots on the trailer (i took full advantage of the "breather holes" the fire dept decided to add to the hood for tieing it down properly):
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8875/0512081409wb3.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8057/0512081409abh5.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6839/0512081410ae7.jpg
I'm sorting out details on finding the right donor car. I have two options right now, i just need to find out more info on the second one.
My current options
My main objective is to locate a rolling chassis in good shape and make it at least like mine was....and do it FAST. Currently i have two options:
Option 1 is a local car to me now. Has all parts in working order, 1988, Black, 5 speed, R154, hardtop, Turbo, ~82000 miles. Someone hit it on the front fendor so front bumper and fendor will need to be replaced which the seller has replacements for. It will need to be painted and suspension replaced. he's asking 2k
Option 2 is an '87 rolling chassis in WV. From what i know its $700, 5 speed, Black and TARGA which is a HUGE plus to me since i love my targa. Will not come with engine/wiring etc which i need. Supposedly it is mint minus the paint. LUCKILY, my other friend at school recently did a 1J swap and had a 7mgte. He offered me any part i wish to take for FREE. This would include everything i would need....wiring harness, sensors, injectors relays clutch fan ETC ETC. Only issue really is i can't get a hold of the seller....i will one of these days. im determined
Option 2 is ideal however, i currently don't have a place at WVU, luckily i have a bunch of friends i can stay with in the mean time. I'd have to pull all parts id need here and take them to WV and install them there as quickly as possible if this were to happen. Plus, with this option...i could budget a bigger turbo given my engine is okay :)
Days 3-5: The teardown
Gaboonviper and I have been prepping the car the past couple days to strip it of the engine/tranny and LSD. Today finally we got the engine and tranny pulled at least
Prepping:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=165
More Prepping
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=166
Poor hood....you were nice once :3d_frown:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=167
Almost ready:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=168
Strapping it all up, Tyler trying to loosen the last engine mount nut
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=169
With some extra help and breaking a few more parts, out she comes:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=170
Open heart surgury almost complete (sorry supra, you don't get a replacement)
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=171
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=172
MMM smoke damage:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=173
Getting this in the car and to be stable was a true PITA!
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=174
"Bracing"
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=175
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=176
True 4x4 ride height
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=177
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=178
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=180
DAMNIT DAMNIT DAMNIT! :3d_frown::3d_frown: Yes, everything is locked up.....and those are my keys....to both cars...:3d_frown::nono:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=179
And while i wait for my extra set of keys to come....look what comes to join the party
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=181
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=182
Day 6
Cleaning and stripping day.
Injectors 4-6 dont look bad at all but ill probably replace them anyway :( :( $$$$ (when the clips are off they are nearly perfect minus the burn marks/smoke stains of course
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=189
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=190
Injectors 1-3...not so good...3 with clip off seems ok, no melting....one and two...well could barely get the clips off if at all
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=191
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=192
#1 closer
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=193
1-4 (3,4 still have the RC label on them)
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=194
Cleaned up the bellhousing some
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=196
hmmm which side is the cleaned side ;)
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=197
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=199
intake off:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=198
Yeah...thats water sitting in there:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=200
Pretty dirty in there
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=201
A minute later...not so dirty
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=202
Quite a bit cleaner after some WB40 and paper towels
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=203
UH OH...whats this about??? Fracturing...don't know if its new or old?
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=204
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=205
Day 7-8: Stripping and cleaning
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8402/0517081436mk0.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3200/0517081437le3.jpg
Removing Cast marks (MF'r is DIRTY, doesn't even come off with mineral spirits)
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/539/0518082325ajl8.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1277/0518082345ox8.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8043/0518082346fv6.jpg
This was black too, its the AFM housing...the sensor completely melted off
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/176/0518082105ad2.jpg
Cleaned
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3280/0519080058up5.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8013/0519080058asc9.jpg
This was the intakes color before remember
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7312/0519080058bdo7.jpg
Shiney parts accumulating
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/315/0519081924op9.jpg
Before
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6527/0519081947ans1.jpg
15minutes later
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1986/0519082004hl3.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5192/0519082004ahv6.jpg
AFPR, was ALL black, in the worst of the fire so i had to strip it, left the "A" though
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1885/0519082244ia9.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7173/0519082244aqp1.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9589/0519082302xz7.jpg
One of my upper IC pipes starting to get clean. you can see how rusted it was
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1244/0519082326bp0.jpg
Cleaned
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5552/0519082347ni7.jpg
Before.....then i forgot to take an after shot lol
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9694/0519082354ck1.jpg
Accumulating more
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7521/0520080044al0.jpg
One of the helpers in the process...old as hell but gets the job done
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7394/0520080048jk8.jpg
Added 5/20/08
Valve covers are coming along nicely as well, rather difficult with keeping the ridges on them, most people cut them off to make it easier but i think they look cool :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/canadianbacon/IMG_0209.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/canadianbacon/IMG_0208.jpg
ADDED 5/21/08
Turbo before:
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/926/0520081656hw5.jpg
Turbo After:
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/163/0520081753mu4.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4762/0520081759cg9.jpg
ADDED 5/23
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6177/0523080019mb5.jpg
Head unwrapped, notice the burnt oil from the CPS getting so hot:
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/3820/0522082242fj4.jpg
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7830/0522082243tf0.jpg
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4190/0522082243auz3.jpg
ADDED 5/25
Valve cover and Fuel Rail:
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1843/96850255lv5.png
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7266/img0212uq0.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4552/img0213ec8.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8288/93736501jv2.png
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7168/62746566rl9.png
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9935/16289270yy1.png
For those who have seen my engine/car in person and thought it was clean then....just wait till you see this damn engine bay THIS time :good:
Figured i'd start a new build thread since my car was totaled. My plans are to strip the car of any working/good order parts and putting them into a new chassis. More than likely the motor will be good, once its pulled i will have a better idea.
My budget is a mere 4,000US.......thanks a lot for nothing insurance :icon_evil:icon_evil. I handed them over 7K in receipts in just parts for the car and that's all im getting.
Background:
Well here was the car before:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_55_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_57_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_58_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_54_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_50_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_49_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_48_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/12/web/756000-756999/756403_47_full.jpg
When it was running 100% it was quite a bit over 300WHP/WTQ
Mods inlcuded just about every supporting mod to a big turbo setup MINUS the big turbo from fuel to intake to exhaust with a freshly built engine and head. It was fun, it was fast.
Then tragedy Struck:
My roomate came running down the steps as i was making a sandwich and yelling there was smoke coming from my engine bay. I looked out not all that worried when i realized there wasn't just a little smoke but lots including large flames :aigo:. I couldn't get the hood to release and the fire dept. couldn't pry the hood open so they had to use the jaws of life :icon_mad:
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/4226/picture007xm0.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/3440/picture006ow9.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/7166/picture004qb3.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/1497/picture003pa1.jpg
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2002/picture002oy4.jpg
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9165/picture005yv1.jpg
http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/204/picture001pk0.jpg
As you can see the interior is nearly perfect. All electronics should be in working order...of course they can't though since half the system is burned up.
It begins......
After a two day trip i got the car home from WVU on a trailer. Its currently at Gaboonviper's old boss' machine shop waiting to be parted.
Here are a few shots on the trailer (i took full advantage of the "breather holes" the fire dept decided to add to the hood for tieing it down properly):
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8875/0512081409wb3.jpg
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/8057/0512081409abh5.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/6839/0512081410ae7.jpg
I'm sorting out details on finding the right donor car. I have two options right now, i just need to find out more info on the second one.
My current options
My main objective is to locate a rolling chassis in good shape and make it at least like mine was....and do it FAST. Currently i have two options:
Option 1 is a local car to me now. Has all parts in working order, 1988, Black, 5 speed, R154, hardtop, Turbo, ~82000 miles. Someone hit it on the front fendor so front bumper and fendor will need to be replaced which the seller has replacements for. It will need to be painted and suspension replaced. he's asking 2k
Option 2 is an '87 rolling chassis in WV. From what i know its $700, 5 speed, Black and TARGA which is a HUGE plus to me since i love my targa. Will not come with engine/wiring etc which i need. Supposedly it is mint minus the paint. LUCKILY, my other friend at school recently did a 1J swap and had a 7mgte. He offered me any part i wish to take for FREE. This would include everything i would need....wiring harness, sensors, injectors relays clutch fan ETC ETC. Only issue really is i can't get a hold of the seller....i will one of these days. im determined
Option 2 is ideal however, i currently don't have a place at WVU, luckily i have a bunch of friends i can stay with in the mean time. I'd have to pull all parts id need here and take them to WV and install them there as quickly as possible if this were to happen. Plus, with this option...i could budget a bigger turbo given my engine is okay :)
Days 3-5: The teardown
Gaboonviper and I have been prepping the car the past couple days to strip it of the engine/tranny and LSD. Today finally we got the engine and tranny pulled at least
Prepping:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=165
More Prepping
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=166
Poor hood....you were nice once :3d_frown:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=167
Almost ready:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=168
Strapping it all up, Tyler trying to loosen the last engine mount nut
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=169
With some extra help and breaking a few more parts, out she comes:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=170
Open heart surgury almost complete (sorry supra, you don't get a replacement)
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=171
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=172
MMM smoke damage:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=173
Getting this in the car and to be stable was a true PITA!
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=174
"Bracing"
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=175
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=176
True 4x4 ride height
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=177
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=178
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=180
DAMNIT DAMNIT DAMNIT! :3d_frown::3d_frown: Yes, everything is locked up.....and those are my keys....to both cars...:3d_frown::nono:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=179
And while i wait for my extra set of keys to come....look what comes to join the party
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=181
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=182
Day 6
Cleaning and stripping day.
Injectors 4-6 dont look bad at all but ill probably replace them anyway :( :( $$$$ (when the clips are off they are nearly perfect minus the burn marks/smoke stains of course
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=189
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=190
Injectors 1-3...not so good...3 with clip off seems ok, no melting....one and two...well could barely get the clips off if at all
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=191
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=192
#1 closer
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=193
1-4 (3,4 still have the RC label on them)
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=194
Cleaned up the bellhousing some
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=196
hmmm which side is the cleaned side ;)
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=197
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=199
intake off:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=198
Yeah...thats water sitting in there:
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=200
Pretty dirty in there
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=201
A minute later...not so dirty
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=202
Quite a bit cleaner after some WB40 and paper towels
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=203
UH OH...whats this about??? Fracturing...don't know if its new or old?
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=204
http://www.supramania.com/forums/picture.php?albumid=11&pictureid=205
Day 7-8: Stripping and cleaning
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8402/0517081436mk0.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/3200/0517081437le3.jpg
Removing Cast marks (MF'r is DIRTY, doesn't even come off with mineral spirits)
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/539/0518082325ajl8.jpg
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1277/0518082345ox8.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/8043/0518082346fv6.jpg
This was black too, its the AFM housing...the sensor completely melted off
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/176/0518082105ad2.jpg
Cleaned
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/3280/0519080058up5.jpg
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/8013/0519080058asc9.jpg
This was the intakes color before remember
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/7312/0519080058bdo7.jpg
Shiney parts accumulating
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/315/0519081924op9.jpg
Before
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6527/0519081947ans1.jpg
15minutes later
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/1986/0519082004hl3.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/5192/0519082004ahv6.jpg
AFPR, was ALL black, in the worst of the fire so i had to strip it, left the "A" though
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/1885/0519082244ia9.jpg
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/7173/0519082244aqp1.jpg
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9589/0519082302xz7.jpg
One of my upper IC pipes starting to get clean. you can see how rusted it was
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1244/0519082326bp0.jpg
Cleaned
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/5552/0519082347ni7.jpg
Before.....then i forgot to take an after shot lol
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/9694/0519082354ck1.jpg
Accumulating more
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/7521/0520080044al0.jpg
One of the helpers in the process...old as hell but gets the job done
http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/7394/0520080048jk8.jpg
Added 5/20/08
Valve covers are coming along nicely as well, rather difficult with keeping the ridges on them, most people cut them off to make it easier but i think they look cool :)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/canadianbacon/IMG_0209.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v39/canadianbacon/IMG_0208.jpg
ADDED 5/21/08
Turbo before:
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/926/0520081656hw5.jpg
Turbo After:
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/163/0520081753mu4.jpg
http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4762/0520081759cg9.jpg
ADDED 5/23
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/6177/0523080019mb5.jpg
Head unwrapped, notice the burnt oil from the CPS getting so hot:
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/3820/0522082242fj4.jpg
http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/7830/0522082243tf0.jpg
http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/4190/0522082243auz3.jpg
ADDED 5/25
Valve cover and Fuel Rail:
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/1843/96850255lv5.png
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7266/img0212uq0.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/4552/img0213ec8.jpg
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/8288/93736501jv2.png
http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/7168/62746566rl9.png
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/9935/16289270yy1.png
